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Any accomplishments/success?


Any problems?


More importantly, how are you doing?


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It's never been worse. But I'm a fighter.I am here in Astoria, Queens with the East Manhattan skyline right over the East River! I can see the Chrysler Building.


No one is even calling me to schedule interviews. I have 12yrs + secretarial/administrative experience. I thought while I wait for real estate to improve I can get a 9-5 office job or 2 part time jobs simultaneouly. Boy was I wrong. I presently have a part time job in a totally different field due to a networking contact from real estate.It's a survival job that doesn't pay enough so I am still looking. I found temp and placement agencies were useless back in September 2008. They are overloaded with too many candidates so they only place the "superstars".  The Monster, Careerbuilder and others were also useless so I stopped that. Recuriters, agencies, fake jobs and no response from the boards.New York City job hunting is supposed to be easy - and it ALWAYS was before. This is worse than Sept. 11. was for me when I was also out of a job. I know I sound like I'm whining but this is the reality here for me. What am I doing? Answering local and other classified ads, cold faxing/emailing and thinking of going door to door in Astoria, peddling my resume from office to office. No success at all.


Maybe it's my resume.What do you suggest I do? Can you kindly take a glance at it?


 

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I'm finding the job hunt very discouraging.  I have over 20 years in customer service in various industries.  My last job was as a licensed insurance broker.  I have had my resume and cover letter done by a professional.  I have had three interviews in the last two months but nothing came of them.  The jobs I would like to apply for want either an Associates or Bachelors degree or you must be bi-lingual - all the other requirements I either meet or exceed. When I went to secretarial school back in the 70's, all they offered was a certificate, and a foreign laguage was not a requirement in high school, even though I took Spanish, I never had to use it all these years, so I don't remember any of it, just like the shorthand I haven't used in 20 years.  It is a totally different world out there than it was when I was looking even six years ago. I had no problem six years ago; I had quite a few interviews and had three job offers at once. I would like to work in a medical office, but they want at least one year of medical office experience.  I am trying to volunteer at a local hospital to do some office work to see it that is what I really want.  I want to take some courses, but I can't afford them on unemployment.  I have sent at least 100 resumes, posted my profile on large companies, made phone calls, networked and have not had many responses.  Some of the jobs that did respond were offering much less than what I was making(some more than $7 an hour less) and/ or did not offer medcial benefits ( which my family needs as my husbands job does not contribute to the premiums). I am noticing that a lot of job postings are not listing the company name and they don't want any phone calls, so it is hard to follow up after a resume is sent. One of the interviews I went on I was told 400 people responded to the posting and it was down to me and another applicant. Like I said in a previous positing; It is not fun out there, and I know I am not the only one looking. Everyone's experience and needs are going to be different.

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The reality is simple: Beggars can't be choosers. In this economy we have to be flexible and take what we can get as a survival job. While working at this survival job, continue looking, sending resumes, and yes, find time to interview. I haven't had medical insurance for years. Or 401K or any of that other stuff. The last time I had a full time job with benefits was 2004. I realize now that I AM ONE OF MANY JOB BEGGARS AMONG THOUSANDS. I HAVE TO TAKE WHAT I CAN GET - benefits or none. You really have to be flexible and show the same flexibility when being interviewed. Hell, I'M NOT EVEN GETTING CALLS - WHAT INTERVIEWS? If I could bartend I would, just to make ends meet while the economy is stagnant. But the bottom line is - beggars can't be choosers.Take what you can get - just don't let your negative frustrations come out in the interviews.It is sooo hard, I know.The only way we will survive is if we keep it together at any cost.There is no shame in that.

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Youch, is it ever rough out here. Interviews so far have been few and far between. I've been very fortunate to keep my money flowing from the severance so that frees me from a huge amount of stress. But - these survival jobs folks mention. HOW do you get anyone to look at our resume for them? I've talked to a bunch of hiring reps from retail to service outlets. All said they automatically toss resumes with years of service in higher paying non-industry jobs. I


Now I am trying to figure out how to use my cover letter to make employers realize they must redefine "entry level." It is no longer age or education based. In this economy, it seems to me that a seasoned employee can and usually  will enhance the performance of htat job. That in turn should ripple-affect other employees and grow your business in general, right? If not, what is the flaw in my reasoning?


All tips are wanted.


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All hiring reps, recruiters, human resources are the middle man. They are "the hiring broker." Eliminate the broker and go directly to the source of decision making power.Find out the name and personalize the cover letter. Avoid the middle men if possible. Retail and anything fueled by the consumer is not doing well right now.  I would use a functional resume instead of the chronological. You want to mention the skills that will be utilized in the new job, not a chronological laundry list of 15 years of experience in a totally different field. I would go to retail businesses that need workers.The hiring reps who told you that really are only speaking for themselves - they are not speaking for ALL the hiring reps out there. What they are claiming is subjective.What is true for some is not true for all. Just keep plugging - DO NOT LET WHAT NARROW MINDED PEOPLE SAY OR DO DISCOURAGE YOU. This is what I am doing!!

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Hi All,


I have read  all your stories, Myself i am in the same boat(unemployed), I had 5.5 yrs with the same company as an Administrative Assistant/Office Manager for a Lending/Investment firm here in Orange County,California, I heard that for every job that you apply for, close to 250 other people are applying for that same job, so these job positions that we apply for our applicatin and or resume may not even get looked at because of the saturation of the market(meaning the unemployment level), Make sure that your skills are in bold and at the top of your resume...to catch the viewers eye quick. My heart goes out to all of you here on this group forum, I'm still currently looking for work as well, I think in time things will all get better, we must stay positive and i know it's hard Believe me i know, We have all had jobs in this forum, so we know it's not us persay, we just need to be persistant, because my belief is persistance pays off, and remember we were all looking for a job at one time or another, but by no means are the lay offs our fault, It can bring us down if we allow it, myself i don't have time to be brought down anymore by this my alternative was to stay persistant while looking for a job.


I hope  this helped.

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Verdaria, I 100% agree with your using a functional resume vs a cronological one... 


 


 


 


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I'm with all of you ....  I was laid off from my 27 year career last September due to economy and market conditions - here in Flint, MI ... it's certainly is tough times.   I have been on several interviews.   But ... like you all have already noticed... there are hundreds and hundreds of people all going for 1 opportunity.      I'm considering opening a business.   I have no idea what that entails... but I'm sick of answering to someone else!   

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Start a small business may be answer for you all when your resume is not getting you the job that you want or need. Fine a town that will help you start and grow a business to build your own future! You can be in charge of your own future and build your own retirement that way. It all start with a plan and a desire to do it! Good luck!

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Best wishes to everyone.  I live near Seattle and I just found out yesterday that I am going to be laid-off.  I'm an aerospace engineer and I've decided to move to a bioengineering career instead, but while I take classes to beef up my resume I may be looking for a survival job.  It depends on which of my skill sets I can transfer to a new job.  The Seattle economy is about to worsen due to 5000 anticipated Boeing layoffs this year in Puget Sound, so I'm going to move to San Francisco where the biotech community is doing better.


I've got 60-90 days before I'm out the door of my current job and I've just returned from a disability leave, so protecting my health is most important, especially during this stressful time.  I know that if I'm not healthy to work I'm in serious trouble, so I'm trying to balance my new jobhunt with taking care of myself.


I'm getting a lot out of your posts, and I wish you well.  I'll keep you "posted" on my progress : )


"It's not how hard you can hit. It's how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done." --from the movie "Rocky Balboa" (2008).

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Fmbaci, take care of your health and be as positive as you can at all times. Rest and store energy. Aren't there others in your same boat loaclaly? Now may be time to pre-form hat support group for all of you. My sympathies to all our newly laid off friends, and those about to be.


Verdari, your advice about the middle man is solid. but I have trouble finding out who the real decision maker is. I know that's the point of all direct sales (we're selling ourselves, of course) - find the decision maker. But .... Thanks. I am again retorking the resume toward functional. Just dropping the dates did nothing - they pick up the dates on the applications.


Folks, agencies have provided me the strongest feedback and encouragement, not to mention jobs. I've worked part time retail for long periods of time to pull extra cash. The grocery cashier position paid a lot of bills last time I lost "my real job" in the office that closed up shop and moved to Texas. But this time the retail department store had laid me off months ago. They're online now saying they are hiring. Yet my online application for rehire netted not one nibble. The difference? I do not know but wonder if it's those online personality tests. The online personality test wasn't in place when I was first hired. I talked to a person who said she would "give me a try" and let me go if it didn't work. Fine. I have trouble being absolute about my answers.


Oh well, I've run amuck. Sorry - good luck and keep on searching. The thaw is coming.


Betsy

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Different geographical areas of the United States and different occupations are suffering in unequal levels when it comes to layoffs and unemployment. People assume New York City and other large urban areas are "easy to find work." Well, it depends what kind of work one is looking for.It depends, at this critical point in our economic history, how low you are willing to settle to get a job. People who wisely lower their expectations find work faster. It will not be ideal but it will enable you to survive and keep your head above water. Tke 2 or 3 jobs if you must. Take a night job or do something you otherwise would have never attempted. These cirmcumstances are extreme. Be prepared to think outside the box.


Whatever you do, do not lose hope and self confidence. Once you lose these two, you have condemned yourselves to a hell of your own making.


May the force be with you.

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It is really discouraging. I have tried everything to find a full time job or a freelance gig. People don't even call back or respond to and email. I can  understand that with all of the layoffs, the people left behind are being asked to do the jobs of several people. I have over 20 years experience in my field and now I find out that too many years on your resume is a bad thing. I try not to lose hope and self confidence but some days it is harder to keep a positive attitude. Spring is in the air. I take the dog for long walks...that helps.

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I've never had so much trouble finding a job in my life!  It might be easier if my car had not been repossesed a few months ago.  So here I am with no transportation to get to an interview much less a job and getting awfully close to running out of unemployment.  Today is one of those days where I am so close to giving into hopelessness.  I need another car but with credit that now sucks (and it didn't used to) and limited income that seems so impossible.  I feel stuck into a never ending cycle of: I need a car to get a job but I need a job and better credit to get a car.  There doesn't seem to be a solution.  I honestly don't know what to do next and at one time I was a strong and intelligent woman!  I've never been in this situation in my life and don't know where to turn.  On top of everything else I live with an aging mother and worry about what the financial stress is doing to her.    I just needed to vent.  I don't really expect anyone to be able to help me.

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I too have never had so much trouble finding a job.  I took my previous position right out of college, now here I am 15 years later trying to find something that will pay my bills.  I'm not being picky in the least and find the lack of response frustrating.  I have a pretty large search area - I live on the outskirts of Philadelphia and am willing to travel up to 30 miles in any direction.  My favorite responses to date have been the positions I apply for where my resume completely reflects the requirements of the position and I'm told they went with a candidate with better qualifications. 


Keeping my chin up and my ear to the ground!

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Hi all!...I have been out of work for over a month, due to "a reduction in the work-force". Basically, I had worked for the same firm for 4 years, they have no compassion for their employees. Those being paid the higher salaries and those with the most experience were the first to go. The job market in the greater Chicago area is terrible. I have been divorced for seven years, both daughters are gone, just me and the dog. The days are endless and frustrating. I have posted my resume, attempted to network with everyone I can think of...nada. I did have two interviews with an insurance company...unbelievable. Yep...they want me on board, but there is a catch. The position is as an independent contractor, commission only, no benefits, etc. I have had a number of these companies e-mailing me, asking me to call. I have done some research... consumer complaints, and former employee complaints about the inequities of these companies and what they represent. I have a degree in nursing..so my decision is to go back for a refresher course(after 25 years), sit for my boards, and be employable. Hopefully it will not take six months, in the meantime I am out there looking for work, any work!

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Hello everyone.


The state of the econmy and job market is very disturbing especially for someone in my age bracket. We don't have allot of experience, most of us are still trying to struggle through towards degrees, and with the amount of other people looking for jobs it's near impossible to find anything. What jobs that can be found will always go to someone with more experience and education despite how typically they'd be considered entry level jobs that you'd think we'd be getting. I type over seventry five words per minute with a key stroke per hour rate of over 2000. Can I find any sort of office work? Not apparently in this lifetime.


Ultimately it looks like to even be considered for a job I need to apply for jobs at places like McDonalds but with living prices, trying to finish a degree..... how can people expect you to live off fast food wages? I really don't understand this anymore.


Honestly I'm discouraged by the entire job market as a whole. Just checking my e-mail to see the lack of responses from the fifty plus jobs I've applied for in the last month is depressing.

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Hi everyone!


Well, I am bilingual and have a Master's degree. I don't mean to brag here, but I have been and honor student my whole life, have great references from employers in several fields, and always get "great interviews" because that's part of what I went to school for (my Master's is in Industrial Organizational Psychology). The reason why I don't get the few jobs for which I have been intreviewed: I don't have ENOUGH experience. What I'm trying to tell you is that you need a balance. If you have the experience, try to get education to match it. Even though the economy is hard right now, you can get student loans for low interest rates, and if you ask for a little bit more than what you need you'll have some money to live with. Some schools have a career center or a person dedicated to help students find jobs (hopefully better than the one at the university I went to).


I am lucky enough to have a husband who will not be laid off (ok, he's in the military) and he's supporting me like he knows i'd do for him. After the most recent "thank you but we found someone with more experience" we decided that I'll focus on a business that I'm starting up with a friend and on my "brochure sales" (which aren't going well, anyhow). It doesn't mean that I will stop searching, but that I'll stop stressing so much about not finding a job.


My advice for all of you:



  • DO NOT GIVE UP... set a schedule for your job search... I do at least an hour of reading news and resources for job seekers and at least three applications per day, more if the process is as easy as clicking "send" like with some online serch sites.

  • Cut expenses even more... you don't really need to have the water running while you brush your teeth ;-)

  • Go back to school if it's an option... even for a certificate or an update to beef up your resume.

  • Try the functional resume and remember to target your cover letter like someone said before.

  • Focus on yourself, not only on "not stressing" like me, but on doing things you always wanted to do, and maybe adding things to your routine for which you never had time before, like exercising or learning new recipes... I live in San Diego, CA, and at least here there are a lot of places with free classes where you can learn everything from cooking to sewing to yoga at a park. You can find them through community colleges or your city's website... take advantage of your free time!


I wish US all good luck with finding the perfect job and being better persons!


Yadira Santiago
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www.JoyFabiano.com

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I am being hit on all angles.   On one hand, this economy has allowed employers to be so darn picky.   The question i want to ask them is, What do I have to get you to like me long enough to talk to you?   My next question to them is, "When a person sends in their resume, wasting ink or bytes from their computer, why can't you have the common courtesy of answering a person when they send in their resume?"   I am so frustrated, because I need to find a new job, because my current job is not working for me.   I am currently working in retail, and I have been bumped down to at least one day a week.  


I am trained in sales, marketing, and customer service, and the total amount of experience in all three positions is almost 15 years.   I am also trained in administration.   I even have a bachelor's degree in marketing, and would like to go back for my master's in the same profession.   I am also reading from different sources that my profession may not be needed in the future.   I understand that computers have made a lot easier for companies to do business, but what are you going to do with everyone who trained in marketing, advertising, and sales, and they cannot find work?    I hope that is not true.


How effective are employment agencies now?    The last time I registered for one in 2004, it seems like it took forever for me to get an assignment, but when I got an assignment back in the late 90's, as soon as I signed up for one, I was called sometimes the same day.   I am also a consultant with a direct selling company, and since everyone is pushing for people to start their own business, you would think that people would be busting down my door, when I offer the opportunity for them to start their own business.   Last week, for one day, the company had a one day only deal for people to start their business with the cost of shipping and handling, which was $10.   no one called or emailed me, however, my new recruit of two months has 3 people.   right now, I just want to scream, but if I scream too loud, I will lost everything.    So I wait, and pray that my situation will turn around soon

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 I was laid off on Feb.16th  after 15 months dedicated service as personal private chef to a wealthy couple with several homes and a yacht. A situation developed on the yacht whereby they had an opportunity to hire a previous employee (first mate) who had been with them for five years before they hired me, and he agreed as long as he could bring his girlfriend along who happens to be a cook! Not just that, but as a couple they offered my employer a discount! This situation was "strongly supported by their Captain" who imagined he had a grudge against me and wanted me out anyway....perfectly engineered! The Captain  was unable to hire or keep other first mates who quit due to his obnoxious behaviour. So I was bought off with a glowing reference letter, apologies (no money!!) and hung out to dry with only two weeks notice and no severance pay! No recourse either - if a prospective employer calls my ex-boss he must back up the letter - so I cannot make any waves!


Since then, I have revamped my resume, built a website, (http://web.me.com/chefvenetia) joined Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter and all the major job hunting sites including Monster,JobFox,Craigslist, major staffing agencies etc. (which I check into every day) and I am willing to relocate and even take a cut in pay for the right job. I have also been considering other employment possibilities like working events, working for other caterers, personal assistant, elderly care, dog walking, running errands etc.


On top of this I am supporting a partner who has been out of work for two months and has run out of cash - but I expect things to change soon! I think we have to look at other talents we might have and try to market those, and making new contacts through friends or social networking is a positive thing to do - it is also a good opportunity to delve deep into our own creativity and  support our friends in their endeavors. I have published two more articles, done my taxes, re-organized my files and built a website.  I  see this current crisis as an opportunity to reach for a new experiences and look for opportunities outside my normal sphere of  expertise. Being pro-active is the key, as long as you take time each day to do something that nurtures you, whether it is taking a walk,  calling a long lost friend, helping a neighbor. or trying out a new recipe.  Spring cleaning is rewarding, and items under $25.00 are still selling on E-Bay, while the Spring weather in California is sunny and dry right now - a good time to have a garage sale! Clearing clutter and making some extra cash income lifts the spirits and elevates the mood which is the best place to be in when applying for a job or participating in a telephone interview.


Try to say positive. I have good days and bad days - on the bad ones I look oat my checklist of things I am thankful for which reminds me that I am still one of the lucky ones! Good luck to you all - I hope to be able to share some good news soon.

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There is so much very good and solid advice in these columns. Keep plugging. Do something every day to try to get face time with a job source. Just don't forget that job sources are not always hiring managers. Go for temp jobs whenever and wherever possible, keeping in mind that if you find an good agency, you're one step further along. An important step. Every day do some kind of job skill training actively. Every day get our exercise. I was shocked when I found my pedometer and wore it for a few days. Seems like now I log in two days the steps of one day when I worked a job sitting behind the switchboard all day! 


Right now I feel that some of our unsung heroes are the people trying to find work for other people. They face the same stone walls we job seekers face, and they have all our eyes upon them. But I find that the really good ones always have a moment to encourage or advise when I  reach out. It may not pay my bills, but it will help me find the ways to get there.


My best advice so far - sign up with as many reputable agencies as you can find. Go online, do the app. Then go to the nearest office of that company with your resume and reference material. Walk through the door and find a personal contact in that office. Stay in regular touch with that person, but don't call or email every day. Share with them the experiences you have on assignments and on the hunt. Information is valuable. Conversation is information. Don't ignore your public resourcces, either.


Good luck. Oh yes, remember to do your stretching exercises regularly,. All this online time can cramp our physical, mental and emotional muscles if we're not careful.


Betsy


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It's so depressing to know you have all these skills and experience and absolutely no one wants to hire you.  This is the first time in my life I've ever had to search for a job, they always seemed to land in my lap, so I am incredibly frustrated.  I have sent out too many resumes to count, done follow up, signed up with employment agencies, called past employers, networked and nothing!  At this point, I'd be happy with ANY job that would give me a consistent pay check and benefits as long as it is more than the measly unemployment check the State of TN provides.  I never dreamed I'd be at this stage in my life and in my career, having worked my way up the corporate ladder, to find myself losing everything.  


To top it off my husband lost his job and he has been looking since early January and no offers, not a single interview.  We're in the same boat and it is literally sinking fast. 


For every job opening, there are hundreds of candidates and no one wants people our age.  I guess when you hit 50 years of age, you aren't good for much...never mind we have another 15 to 20 years to work.  In light of where our retirement funds have gone, we may be working till age 90, if we live that long.


We try to keep our chin up and thank God that we at least have our health, a family support network, and a roof over our head (at least for the time being).  I pray so hard every night that one of us will find a job but I guess there are so many prayers being said, mine is getting lost in the shuffle.  It's tough out there and I'm straining to see the light at the end of tunnel and hoping the light isn't a train barreling straight at what little we have left!


Thanks for listening and let me share my frustrations.  Good luck to everyone out there suffering through these trying times!

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I am there with you. Unemployed. I also worked for the same company for five years. Unfortunately all good things come to end. The company moved out of state. I have been unemployed for a while and have had no interviews. I think my reseume is ok. I know it is 7 interviews per postion now. However not even getting called for one is discouraging. I am a fighter and as long as their is a working force out there I will keep looking... To everyone else who is unemployed keep your chins up.. If all else fales we have eachother to rely on. Who knows maybe we will end up starting a call girl business!!!!! Just kidding, keep smiling.

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I have been on both sides of the "Big Layoff" as a RIF'd employee and as an employer having to make the tough choices and understand the pain of everyone involved.


I also have been an Executive Recruiter for over 15 years.  I disagree completely that you should try to avoid the "middle man".   It is NEVER a bad idea to have a recruiter "in your back pocket", even in less trying economic times.  A good recruiter is your best friend in a time like this!  We know who's hiring for what positions and in what markets.  We have spent literally years building relationships with just the people you need to reach now!  Utilize our strengths!  We can offer a wealth of career expertise and advice and can do a terrific job marketing you in a tough climate.  Be selective about the recruiters you work with.  A major mistake lots of job seekers make is devaluing themselves in the market by blasting resumes all over town - it's never a good idea to appear desperate, even when you are!  I suggest interviewing several recruiters before you decide who you trust with your career.  You want to work with someone who seems genuinely interested in what makes you tick and be sure you establish that the recruiter is NEVER to submit your resume to a client company without your express permission.


My other strongest bit of advice is to keep networking!  Sites like Excelle and LinkedIn are great ways to have your finger on the pulse of your community!


I wish you all much luck!  Please don't hesitate to reach out to me if you'd like any suggestions - I'm happy to take a look at your resume, for absolutely no charge, of course - and offer tips.  Whatever I can do to help!


Kristie Gibson
Director, Strategic Partnerships
Grant Marshall Group
kgibson@gmarshallgroup.com

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I am in the close whereabouts of New York City. I have dealt with employment agencies, recruiters, and the like my entire working life. I dealt with them when I was a 4-yr degreed "fresh in my 20s doing paralegal work" and that was the ONLY time when they were helpful - for temporary jobs. Here in Manhattan there are more recruiters than lawyers. Following my decision to leave legal support, in the non-profit world they could not place me - I placed myself in one of the most renowned performing arts non-profit companies in New York City. After my nonprofit job got cut in 2004 due to budget slashes, the agencies here were useless as well. After bouncing in various secretarial jobs and going to school for about 1.5, I got my real estate license in late 2006 - I AM THE MIDDLE MAN MYSELF AS THE REAL ESTATE SALESPERSON!! I love this job and always have. There are industires where the middle man is a necessity - real estate, mortgages, banking and financial;  and yes, car sales for new cars or new boats.  Recruiters work very well with Top500 companies who are looking for Harvard or other prestigious local college graduates -  or people with Top500 industry work experience. The other kind of person they place is someone who has very stable work history. I am not in any of these categories, and most people here in New York City are not either. So basically the average person stands no chance with a recruiter unless it is for a - temp job. It is common here for people to change jobs every 2 or 3 years, especially if they are in administrative support or not traditional industry jobs (non profits, arts, sales jobs). Lack of challenge, opportunities within the same company to move up, budget cuts & layoffs, family reasons, - in my 12 years I have had all of these reasons. Recruiters  and placement agencies refuse to deal with me with regard to permanent high-quality jobs - even entry level ones. They all seem to have this arrogance and lack of respect for candidates here in New York City. They all want fresh young Paris Hilton lookalike, bubbly, millenials.  I see and have experienced clear age discrimination among other issues. Finding a recruiter who is good is nearly impossible. Why should anyone waste the time, money and like someone here said, bytes and ink? If a recruiter was recommended to me, maybe I would give them a shot. Without candidates, they would all be out of work.

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Furthermore, before the economic collapse that has affected the myriad of interrelated industries, my potential to make a profit was significant. I tested these waters and can make a lot of money for myself and my broker - as well as other salespeople who cooperate with me in a team effort and also money made from business referrals!!! All of this is accomplished while at the same time keeping the customers very happy. That is much harder than any placement recruiters job.


If the placement agencies and recruiters refuse to look beyond a formatted resume when speaking to an articulate, educated and extremely sharp candidate - then I have no use for them. They do not deserve to make a profit from placing me. And I am very familiar with who pays the agencies, how they operate, who they really work for, their goals etc etc. etc. They only target a small customer profile for the needs of the client corporation. What is good for the gander is not - well, always good for the goose.

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Rated: +1 | Posted 7 months ago

 

Hello Everyone,


I've been meaning to post here, but have been so busy lately. I just wanted to stop by and let you know how valuable and precious you are! I am keeping all of you and each one who sends me a resume to review in my thoughts and prayers. I believe that there is something out there that's better than any other offer - that's meant just for you, whether it's a position that will put you out of your comfort zone to help you learn and grow, or something that is totally within your realm of experience - or both. Each one of you has something worthwhile and special to offer, both professionally and personally, to your new job. If you haven't already, I encourage you to check out the threads w/in this groups that have a heart in the title. I've posted alot of really great links that I think will help you out - if you're not already using them. Almost all of them are free!


 Take care and don't give up!!


~Dana



10 Positive Things (CVTips.com)


 


 


In order to keep using what you have, your knowledge and skills, you must find new work. The unemployment will end; you know this. The problem becomes how to get through the unemployment positively. With this in mind, try using these ten ways of staying positive while you are unemployed. Using what you have to stay upbeat and moving forward will create more opportunities.


 



  • Create Your Ideal Job On Canvas - take any flat surface and paste a picture of you doing a job you like. Attach reaffirming words, articles and references from printed media. Place it where you see it daily.

  • Change the Inner Speech - positive inner speech will always help advance a good outlook on any situation.

  • It's Your Life, So Use It - make productive use of your time and your life; you are the only person in total control over the outcome.

  • Make Something From Unemployment - even if you don't find a job tomorrow, any learning or other activity provides positive experiences while unemployed.

  • Look for Opening Doors - the saying of 'when one door closes another opens' is often true; you need to be looking for the open door to step through it.

  • Create Your Own Self Image - don't rely on others to define who you are while looking for employment. Don't allow yourself to be pegged into any specific job type which doesn't fit your goals.

  • Reward Yourself For Trying - when you achieve positive results from an effort, any effort, celebrate that result; even small items such as reaching a certain number of applications per day or getting job interviews deserves celebration.

  • Stay Close to People Who Believe - sticking close to people who believe in you and your value helps self esteem and confidence; these people will not bring you a lower level but will inspire you to reach higher levels for yourself.

  • Be Thankful for What You Have - during unemployment, look around at what you still have; be aware of what good each day has in life.


Celebrate Being Able and Capable


 


People are always amazed at what they can accomplish when real need exists. Using what you have to achieve what you need means using your capabilities and abilities. Here are some things to remember when you get frustrated by lack of movement from others.


 


 



  • It's up to you to take your life and use it.

  • Know what your capabilities and abilities really are.

  • Nobody owes you anything but yourself

  • You can make something of what you have and improve upon it; or you choose to let yourself down.


While you do not use all of your abilities when employed, using what you have when unemployed can prove beneficial because it allows you a range of resources and opportunities, both in yourself and the outside world.


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Rate This | Posted 7 months ago

 

I am so happy that I stumbled onto this forum.  I have been feeling very isolated!


I lost my job 9/11/08 after 16 years with the same company, and have been unable to find a new position in my field (executive / administrative support).   I, too, do not have a degree and am in my middle 50's.  However, I am in great shape as I do fitness training and cardo exercise 5 - 6 days a week, so I am not anywhere near ready to retire!


Everything that all of you other job searcers have posted are exactly the same scenarios that I have been experiencing.  I live in Fort Worth, Texas and the job market supposedly has been stronger here than other areas of the country.  Some of my friends and family have begun dropping subtle comments that possibly I am not really interested in finding another job.  This is the first time in my entire adult life that I have not had a job and been self-supporting!  It sucks and I hate it!


OK, I am climbing off my pitty potty.  Thanks so much to all of you for sharing your experiences.  It's helped me realize I'm not out there by myself.  I wish for all of you to find new positions soon!

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I didn't lose my job. I resigned, not the smartest move perhaps. But my PA has mentioned twice that my blood presure is lower. I'm working part time now. But I want a full time position with benefits. I've had interviews but no offers. There was a very dry period after the first of the year but things have started to improve again.


I am considering starting my own business. I want something unique. We don't have a grocery store near our new development. I am wondering if the oldtime Mom and Pop store concept would work today. Convenience stores don't sell produce or much of anything that you could plan a dinner with. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I could start an enterprise like this?

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