Excelle

Alright ladies and gentlemen,

I’m listening to the radio and each day they have what they call the ‘adult conversation’. Today’s adult conversation is about abortion. Why is the man left out of the woman's right to choose? They have also posed the question on rather the man should have any say so in the decision…say for instance, the woman doesn’t want the baby, but the man does…does he have any say-so. I know this is going to be a heated discussion, and I look forward to reading every ones response. Remember these are opinions, so please be respectful of everyone’s opinion.

He may have a say, but does it really mean anything. He wants the baby, she doesn't...she wants an abortion, most will say it's her body, and if she wants an abortion, than she can have one....but he wants the baby, where does his rights come in? A man can not want a child, and be forced to pay child support for a child he didn't want, but has no say so in a child he does want. I'm just playing devils advocate, I really don't know how I feel about this subject, because it's a sticky one...I think they both have rights, but at the end of the day, she has the final say so. 

 Continuing the devils advocate thread... The father wants the child at any cost, regardless of the mothers health situation, does he have the right to force a continued pregnancy when in all likely hood it would result in the death of the mother? To say nothing of the psychological well being of the mother when there is mental instability at the outset. Then there would have to be additions to the laws, what about incest? rape? there is still a "father" involved in those situations, does he have any rights? There are hidden circumstances to any situation in life and pregnancy has many sometimes.  If you get down to basics, a pregnancy is a parasitic relationship, the fetus feeds off of the mother, not the father. He planted the seed, but the mother is who "feeds" life to the child.  I know what my feelings about abortion are personally, but I have to be able to look at things from more than my own personal belief system at times.  A very fine can of worms opened with this topic, I enjoy being forced to think about my own opinions. Thanks for giving us all pause for thought.

The more I think about this question, the more I come to realize that a man has no say so......all he can do is go with the flow of what she wants. Is it fair?

I'd have to agree with DemonicButterfly.

With knowing that our bodies and lives can suffer with the birth of a child, I don't think it'd be fair for a man to have the right to "force" us to have a child. I also know, some men are just plain stupid. Let's take my xbf. I had gotten pregnant, we were very young. I didn't want the baby, he did. He promised me if I had the baby, he'd make sure his Dad raised the kid. Yup, you heard me right. HE didn't want the child, he wanted his DAD to raise the kid. That's the lamest thing I have ever heard. I would rather give my baby up for adoption than have it raised by the grandfather, because the father was passing the buck.

So, for me, I don't think the men have any right to tell us to abort, or not to abort. It is our bodies, and our bodies is the one that ends up suffering in the process. Although there are many successful pregnancies, let's be real. How many women out there have incontinence issues? How many of them were hospitalized because they bled out? How many of them died? Would you be willing to give up your life, so the father of your baby can have his baby? IMHO, I wouldn't.

Again, just my opinion. If it was his body that would suffer and he wanted the kid, go for it.

On the flipside of this.......I do think men should have some rights though. ie. if she wanted the baby, but he didn't, I say let there be a law where he can walk away, or only support the baby somewhat. I know that sounds wrong, but should a man be forced to be a father, if a woman cant' be forced to be a mother? There would have to be a lot that goes into some sort of law like that, bug again, just my humble opinion.

Personally I don't think a man should have any say over a woman's right to choose. As it is, men have been having TOO MUCH say in a woman's right to choose. Look at the old men debating the issue, and even signing approvals or disapprovals into the the legal system. Abortion is a political debate, and men still rule politics.

That being said, on the social level...

The majority of the times a woman considers abortion is because she feels utterly alone. Why does she feel alone? Because the guy who got her pregnant decided to bolt. Until men become men, this issue should belong ONLY to the woman. Single mothers have become a way of life in America as well as other countries, and it shouldn't be so. I don't knock single mothers, I think they do a wonderful job given the hardships they face.

It's too easy for a man to say "have my baby," and a whole new story for him to say "I'll help support it." Unfortunately, the latter RARELY happens. As I said, until men grow up...they should butt out.

Luciana

Mama's baby,

Daddy's, maybe.

I'm just sayin'.

In my opinion, the final decision rests on the woman. It's her body and if she has made the decision to abort, something has told her that the best decision for all concerned is to not bring that life into the world. It's never a cut and dry decision.

Great topic. I enjoyed reading other people's opinion and totally respect them. Here's my opinion...

The question is "WHY IS THE MAN LEFT OUT OF THE WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE?" Hmmm....maybe because he's not a woman and therefore doesn't fit in that category. That's like asking "Why can't a New Jersey resident vote for a New York governor?" Because you're not from New York and therefore can't participate in New York affairs.

Secondly, are we really questioning the fact that someone else has an opinion about what I do to my body? If a man wants to get a tattoo, he will. If he wants to have body piercing, he will. If he wants to cut his balls off to become a woman, he will. 

Why do we always want to question what women can do to their bodies? If I want to have a tattoo, I will. If I want to have a body piercing, I will. If I want to cut off my breast to become a man, I will. If I want to be pregnant, I will. If I want to have an abortion, I will.