Excelle

This is not good.  Changing Lifestyles and I were just starting to get the hang of giving references.  After I gave her one, she suggested that we use Womanco as our employer, and and our job titles (or relationships) as "Career Networking Member." 

You may laugh at what I am going to say, but this is bigger than Monster.  This is a company of women.  Our contributons are what makes up this site . . . it is morphing into something bigger than the creator could ever envision.  I even see it as a platform for change for women sometime in the future.  I am sure it is already bringing positive change in small ways to women already here.

It is where we come . . . something that is uniquely our own.  I for one, regret that the powers that be see the need to change the name.  Yes, there are a few men that pop in, (and Ricki who thinks he is a woman, of course . . . but is only more in touch with his feminine side than the average man . . . lol)  But being from the gender that is not even recognized by the US Constitution as having all of the same rights as men in this society (except maybe to vote) . . . this has been a refreshing oasis in a world run by men.

You see, I put a lot of time into this site (and work a full time job, mind you.)  It is more than pasting gifs on a wall, although I do this .  Just yesterday, I gave advice to a young high school student on where to find money for college.  This morning, I gave my professional opinion on what another woman should do to use her talents to go into business for herself.  In the past, I have researched to give women resources in their own state (via internet ) on where to get that power bill paid when the lights are going off, and she has young children, and no money to stop that disconnection from occurring.

Younger women are leaving facebook to join this site.  I am seeing this more with every passing day.  They want something with substance, and that is what Excelle is . . . the very essence of every woman who frequents this site.

When I post for the first time, I alway leave anonymous tags based on what each woman is doing. (I just recently made the decison to do this anonymously as not to do it for gain for myself.)  No, in most cases, I do not really know the person, but I look at it as a self fulfilling prophecy.  I am a certified career developer by trade, and can immediately identify the positive traits that the woman in each occupation should have.  If each woman is not doing this when I give the tag, it will give her a vision on what she should be doing to excel in her profession.  It gives her a goal, and then she knows what she should be doing (that is, of course, if she doesn't already know.)

"Without a vision, the people perish. "  (Biblical quote here.)

The new name sounds so cold and sterile.  I hate it.

I will most likely leave, as much as I am reluctant to make this decision.  That is, unless I am convinced of this logic otherwise.  I guess the bottom line is money.

Anna . . . please don't let them change the name.

Respectfully submitted,

Carmen

(SongofJoy57)

Although I am a newbie, I would like to state what I have seen as benefits to this site you don't usually see in many others. As women and people, sometimes, some simply need that nudge, suggestion, or hear voice through others. That is what Excelle is for many on this site. There have been countless ones, in such a short period of time, I have been blessed with giving advice regarding work, career, education, and even help in their personal lives. I have stood in support of the good of Excelle has to offer when, people considering becoming active on the site, asked if it were just a chat site. I have explained, in detail, how to use the site to their advantage. I, sincerely, hope many things will stay as is with enhancements to the model already in place. I am praying it will keep its warmth and never becomes cold. This is a site that can actually bring out so much good and promise in so many. Just keep up the good work!

Blessings,

Maria

Great Idea, Maria!

Then "women" is still there as an identifier.  That is what attracted me in the beginning (and Tall Anna's welcoming greeting, of course!) =)

I am a woman . . . oh this site is for me and about my concerns!  (That is what grabbed my attention, anyway.)

Pleeeeze Anna . . .

Ask the powers that be if we can keep "women" in the name.

Hey ladies,

I really appreciate your candid feedback. And first of all, let me say how happy I am to hear how much you love Excelle and have invested yourselves in it! I sincerely hope your involvement continues. The site is what it is because of women like you! Keep it up! Keep encouraging others in both their professional and personal endeavors.

The good news is, the things you love about this site are not changing. It's simply a name change. The only thing changing is the name that appears on header. We are still the place for women to congregate, a social network for women (you know, with the men we adore sprinkled in! *waves to ricki*). You can still network to your hearts' desires. You will still have all the opportunities - if not more of them - to mentor and to learn from others.

I'd be incredibly sad to see you leave, and hope you'll reconsider. Regardless of the name, this is a place where women from all walks of life can congregate to talk about their concerns, and support and encourage each other.

Best,

Anna

Women (we are big, we are great and we are honourable) so let us honour our leader by agree with her, encouraging her, supporting her to do what she think is right.

Actually, this name Excelle is a powerful name and attractive name for women to recognise ourself.  So my suggestion is that, if we can make it (ExelleExcellemonster.com) is a suggestion.

Thank you.

I have been on Excelle for a little while and have had the great pleasure of meeting some truly wonderful people. Being a member of a site like this makes me proud. I absolutely love it when people ask me about where I seen something or learned something and I tell them, "On my Excelle site, it's an online community for Women."

     Normally I wouldn't pay much attention to these types of changes, with other networks I have sat quietly thinking, "No big deal, it's just this or that...." I hope this is ONLY changing a simple name. I do, however, have to ask..........

What is wrong with the name we have?       This is an amazing site with amazing people.

   For now, I will wait and see what happens, but it does sadden me to see something so beautifully strong be changed to be more "mainstream", in all honestly I don't like the new name and to me it says cold, impersonal, generic, and common.

   It really saddens me to see that SongofJoy has left us already, I am sorry, but I agree with her!!! If my account shall be deleted for my opinion, then so beit, I will then know this wonderful site has indeed been handed to the "dogs".  FYI I am not talking about Anna either.

If I am offending anyone with my opinions I do apologize, but this is how I feel.

Hello all,

I have finally found a site in which I feel I belong...and you are changing it!  I belong to Monster.com, also, and have nothing good to say about it. Nothing.  Nadda.  I am seriously upset.

I only joined this group within the last month, and have been astounded to find the most incredible, intelligent, awesome women who think the same thoughts I have, somw who have the same twisted sense of fun and humor that I do...and fear we will be sucked up and lost by The Monster!

I know my unhappiness will not change a thing, but at least I have been able to whine for a moment, and possibly nudge you into re-thinking this???

Martie Malan

Martie – I’m so sorry you’ve had that sort of experience with Monster, but I want to assure you that nothing about how this site works or what it means to our members (and me!) will be changing for the bad. There are some systems things that are happening with Monster later this month that will make it easier for you to use Monster and this site together, but that’s the extent of the Monsterfication.

 

That said, I want to address some of the suggestions to keep "Women" in the name. While I love and respect everyone for being so passionate about this place that you’d make those suggestions, the site does have an entire legal process behind changing the name that makes it impossible for us to change it at this point. There are copyrights that have to be verified, length issues, and those sorts of things we had to consider before changing the name.

 

We love the name Excelle because it spoke to the deepest desire we have for our sisters (and brothers-in-arms, Ricki!) to flourish and succeed. If putting a name to that mission – which hasn’t changed since day one of this site – offends you, or if you really feel like seeing the word "Woman" in the browser bar when you visit the site’s address makes such a big difference that you question the value of what you get here, I am very and truly sorry.

I’d hope that you give us a chance to prove your worst fears wrong, because we’re really excited about making the site an even more amazing community.

Ok, sounds as if Excelle is trying to grow and expand and I can appreciate that.  However, intergrating with Monster.com does not seem the way to go for those of us who are biz owners and looking for ways to build on that.  Monster.com is the place I go to look for a job, not to start or build one.  As I am still trying to build my business, I still need some cash flow and will look to Monster.com and other job boards for part time income.  I am sure you are thinking, what a better way to kill two birds with one stone.  Look for a part time job and network for your business at the same time.  Well, that is just the thing.  I am not comfortable with having my job search profile in the same place as my business profile. I liked the idea of having my business and personal id's seperate and apart.  It may sound silly to you, but that is just how I feel.  Like Excelle I would like to grow and expand as well.  I've met amazing women here on the board who have given me a lot of support and ideas to help me with my Avon business.  I just don't think that being part of a job placement board is the way to go to help me to achieve to those goals.  I guess I will have to wait and see how this is going to go, but I am not sure that it is will benefit me in the way I would like.  With that being said, I will everyone involved with Excelle but success with this new venture and hope that you will have a very smooth transition. 

Y'all are crazy! Haven't you read Shakespeare - "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet!" I've been around since the site was pink and black and ya know what? It is still the same awesome place it was before. What defines this site? The people on it. So get over a name change cause this site will still be the BEST place to share, learn and connect with each other.

I also think migrating with a larger company will only give Excelle more resources to build better features and expand its reach to more women to empower and enlighten. It also seems to fit in with the Monster core competency of careers.

We have to trust that the people who have seen Excelle grow from DAY 1 know what is going on FAR MORE than any of us do.

YOU GO EXCELLE I LOVE YOU!!!!!!

Hi everyone,

I'm so happy I was able to read all your opinions. Personally, I dislike the name. Excelle is completely uninviting. Also, what's up with monster putting their name on the URL? When it was womenco.com, it was still part of monster but it wasn't so "in your face." You were able to type, "www.womenco.com" and the site came up.

I also am part of the Monster community and honestly I don't have anything good to say about them either. Horrible company. Anna, I know you said nothing about how this site works will be changing for the bad. However, if I am forced to use Monster in some way, I consider that bad.

-Belkis

Anna,

Were you ever going to announce the changes in the TOS?

Three days ago, Wade's seeking people to join his MLM program was against the TOS. Not anymore.

But what I have real problems with is this:

Excelle changed its terms without notification.

Excelle may immediately, without prior notice, issue a warning, temporarily suspend, indefinitely suspend, or terminate your use of and access to the Site, at our sole discretion, for any reason, whether with or without cause or warning, and without liability. Your sole remedy against Excelle in the event of a dispute arising out of this Agreement, the Site or your use thereof, is to terminate this Agreement by ceasing your use of the Site. In the event of termination of this Agreement, Excelle may delete and/or store, in its discretion, data associated with your use of the Site. Excelle may also change, suspend, or discontinue any aspect of the Excelle Web site at any time, including the availability of any Web site feature, database, or content.

I don't know how anyone, in good conscience, could take anything I have written and reproduce it elsewhere.  Are we asked permisssion?  Can we say no?  Do I have to weigh EVERY word I say in any of my topics or conversations with other members?  I find this so disconcerting that, unless you can appease me, I will be signing out of Excelle.  It's not worth the worry to me.  I don't want the public to know if I have health issues, I don't want the public to know about things I've written to others about trials with my teenagers, I don't want anyone but those to whom I write to have knowledge of my personal life!  I'm getting more worked up by the moment, so I'll log off now.

Martie

Eating Humble Pie: humiliation by admitting wrongness or having been proven wrong after taking a strong position.

Well, I am publically admitting that I cut my nose off to spite my face.

Change?

No, It doesn't have to be scary.

I tell you what is scary . . .

leaving Womenco=Excelle, and then not finding a site for women on the world wide web that is so wonderful, so informative, and so made for me.

losing all my friends that I have formed such meaningful relationships with.

I thought I could take a stand for women everywhere (just like Marian Anderson standing up there singing when so much was going against her) and get some major results. I just wish we could have voted on it, but guess that was not in the cards.

Anyway, I am back . . . a little older, a little wiser. Look at the dark circles under my eyes. It is from not getting my "friend fix." (I must see Miss Mary Kay about this.)  My hair is wild and unruly, and I am not eating so well either. Did you not see someone pressing her nose again the window . . . wishing she could come in and respond to some of the forums? That was me . . . SongofJoy57 . . .AKA "Rebel without a Clue." See all of my contributions and photos with "Account Deleted" below it? Well, I did that to myself . . .

Remind me not to do that again . . . you know. . . play Gloria Steinem of the internet . . .

or at least to not go off ranting and raving like Scarlett O'Hara: "As God be my witness, I will never darken the threshold of Excelle.com!"

Cause I may have to come back with my tail tucked between my legs asking for forgiveness.

I have learned to choose my battles wisely.

I apologize to all my friends.

Tall Anna: I am sorry if I caused you any grief.

Love,

EatingHumblePie

(AKA: jPFXLD7D57) <-----my deleted account

I am sort of new to this site and am still trying to figure out how to navigate it.  A name change is what most sites are all about.  I guess they just want to see if we are paying attention.  I only wish you (Excelle) would give better information on how to invite friends, I was asked by four people to be on their friend list, when I first signed up, but I can't find out how to invite new people to be on MY friend list.  The name change looks like a good one to me.